promotion board proceedings

DA Forms 3356 and 3357 will be obsolete. How will the S1 record the boards recommendation to the Promotion Authority to

either recommend or not recommend the Soldier (go/no go)?

A memorandum (board proceedings) will be required to capture a boards recommendation to the Promotion Authority; based on

the majority vote (GO/NO-GO) of the board members. The specific format is included in the revision to AR 600-8-19. Ultimately, the

Promotion Authority will either approve or disapprove (by memorandum) the boards recommendation. This constitutes the only

administrative requirement that captures the authority to integrate (or not) a name to the recommended list. As such, a copy must be

Will promotion board proceedings still be processed and signed by the promotion authority and President of the Board even

though there will be no commander or board points listed? If yes, do the promotion board proceedings still need to be maintained? When

a Soldier PCSs will they need a copy so they can turn-in the proceedings to their gaining command?

Yes, the promotion board proceedings signature authority will not change. While there will be no board points or Commanders

Points listed, a GO/NO GO will be implemented. Soldiers and BDE/BN S1s should maintain a copy of the board proceedings. Soldiers

should be provided and a copy and are encouraged to maintain a copy of the promotion board proceedings for their own personal

records. Once they are integrated onto the promotion selection list, they can view and print their PPW. If block 6 displays E5 or E6, it

verifies they were integrated onto the HQDA promotion standing list.

What do you do if a Soldier on the promotion standing list in processes and doesnt have a copy of their board proceedings

and you cant get a copy from the previous unit that boarded the Soldier? Are there any exceptions to allow integration without the board

Prior to the Soldiers PCS, each Soldier should ensure that they were integrated onto the promotion selection list. After they are

integrated, they can view and print their PPW. If block 6 displays E5 or E6, then they were integrated onto the HQDA promotion standing

list. Producing a copy of the memorandum authorizing them list integration can verify actual list status. If a Soldier fails to accomplish

either, they will need to reappear before the promotion board.

Yes. An example of the promotion board proceedings are at the following link,

mil/site/protect/active/select/promotion_board_proceedings_example.pdf

Lateral Promotion Question

I have looked around in 600-8-19 but have been unsuccesful in finding an answer to the following question. I was hoping someone knew the regulation better than I.

I am a CPL who was laterally promoted a year and a half ago while downrange. I was then and have continued to be filling NCO Positions. ( FDT NCOIC, Squad Leader, Training NCO) I requested a reclassification from my current MOS which has very limited promotion opportunities into 92Y and received a class date coming up very shortly. My question is do I continue to wear CPL until laterally transfered back to SPC by an O-5 or do I show up to the school wearing SPC. My other question is will I be able to retain my promotable status or will it be removed when I enter the school. I have 600 pts which is more than enough in the MOS i am changing into and it would be great if they would let me keep it.

Please only answer if you know the regulation, I have already gotten enough answers consisting of well i think, or I saw happen once .

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You wont lose your promotable status. Also, until you get laterally transferred (which Ive never heard of. Anyone have a precedence on this?), then youre still a CPL. It has nothing to do with where you are or who doesnt think you should be one. If nobody puts in the paperwork, then its not valid. Dont demote yourself!

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Only if your new MOS allows you to be promotable coming in, which your Career Counselor should be able to tell you, will you keep your promotable status. I honestly doubt 92Y will make you lose your promotable status.

As for being a Corporal, you will stay a Corporal until Laterally Appointed back to Specialist. Remember, you must continue to hold a NCO slot to be a Corporal.

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Ok, I realize this is a VERY late reply to this, but if it helps new Soldiers, or soon to be promoted Soldiers then it is worth posting. READ ALL of what is written below. Its in AR 614-200, Enlisted Assignments and Utilization Management, Chap 3-14. As for retaining Promotable status, I just completed reclass school less then two months ago, and the promotion reg (AR 600-8-19, Chap 3-24, see below quote) states that you can get promoted in the new MOS on the 1st day of the second month after school graduation, i.e. if you graduate school on 11 AUG 07 you can be promoted on 1 SEP 07 PROVIDED you were promotable before school AND that you have enough promotion points in the new MOS.

a. For lateral appointments to 1SG see paragraph 824.

b. Lateral appointments are not required for soldiers in the grade of SFC moving to or from platoon sergeant positions.

[b:c6ad89ee8e]c. Commanders (05 and above) may authorize lateral appointment of SPC to CPL without local selection board action provided the soldier concerned is assigned to an authorized (documented) NCO position in their CPMOS.[/b:c6ad89ee8e]

(1) Lateral appointments will be announced by either DA Form 4187 (Personnel Action) or informal memorandum. DA Form 4187 or informal memorandum will be the only announcement of the lateral appointment.

[b:c6ad89ee8e](2) Soldiers appointed to CPL will retain the grade when reassigned from the NCO position, including permanent changeofstation moves. However, the unit commander may laterally appoint CPL to SPC without soldiers consent or board action[/b:c6ad89ee8e]

(a) For disciplinary action taken under Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) (50 USC 22) that adversely affects the ability to perform duties as a NCO.

(b) For demonstrated substandard performance of technical or supervisory duties.

Task: Processing Soldiers Reclassified While on a Recommended List

a. Soldiers who are reclassified, for other than loss of qualifications as a result of inefficiency or misconduct, will

compete against the promotion point cutoff score and may be promoted in the newly awarded MOS effective the first

day of the second month following reclassification.

b. Soldiers mandatorily reclassified into a PMOS in which they are not fully qualified in accordance with DA PAM

61121 (normally due to lack of requirement such as training) will compete for promotion in the new PMOS on the

first day of the second month following reclassification. An example would be a Soldier with an additional skill

identifier (ASI) of 4A. When a Soldier meets or exceeds an announced cutoff score prior to completing the required

training, the Soldier will be promoted conditionally contingent on successful completion of the PMOS training. Soldier

who are promoted conditionally and subsequently fail to complete the required training for cause or academic reason

will be administratively reduced. The following statement will be added to the special instructions of the promotion

instrument: Soldier has not met the PMOS training requirement and is promoted conditionally. If the Soldier does not

attend or successfully complete the required PMOS training as scheduled, the Soldier will be administratively reduced

and will have to be reboarded to become promotable.

c. Once a Soldier is reclassified, he or she can no longer compete in the old PMOS.

d. Soldiers with an approved voluntary reclassification will compete in their current PMOS through the month of

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SGTGERRY- Sorry to hear you missed it. I hope you are able to get more points and make it next month.

For all those who did not make it this month, take solace in knowing that the 7 list came out in March so alot of MOSs will be freeing up 5 and 6 slots soon.

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justawifey – Congratulations to you and your husband.

SGTGERRY- Sorry to hear you missed it. I hope you are able to get more points and make it next month.

For all those who did not make it this month, take solace in knowing that the 7 list came out in March so alot of MOSs will be freeing up 5 and 6 slots soon.

Lets hope you are right. 68W points are back up to 798 again (3rd time this fiscal year already whereas the norm is 1 maybe 2 times a year it is maxed) But looking at the points they more or less put most MOS at 798. I wonder if they are looking at the promotion records for invalid entries (improper use of some online sources as Military/Civilian credit as well as inaccurate DA3355s) namely health.edu and Swank Health (which some classes are required for MEDDAC positions)

I really wonder how many soldiers decided they needed an upper hand to get promoted and how long it has gone on. I cant help but think they are doing a massive audit to make sure those soldiers whos promotion packets meet the standards. It makes me think back when I got promoted to Sergeant that the soldier next to me got promoted on a bogus weapons card. I was never able to think of her as an equal.

Does anybody know if there is an archive for the Trend report? Back when I was working on my stripes, I used to keep an eye on my peers, but I didnt start tracking this time around until march.

For thos who are wondering I am quoting it below:

MILPER MESSAGE NUMBER : 09-086 SEMI-CENTRALIZED POINTS PROCEDURES

AND AUDITS (HOT!) Read paragraph 6 (UNCLASSIFIED)

SEMI-CENTRALIZED POINTS PROCEDURES AND AUDITS

A. AR 600-8-19, ENLISTED PROMOTIONS AND REDUCTIONS, 20 MAR 08

1. THIS MESSAGE NUMBER WILL EXPIRE NLT APRIL 2011. HOWEVER, THE

PROCEDURES WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL SUPERSEDED OR RESCINDED.

2. THIS MESSAGE APPLIES TO THE ACTIVE ARMY COMPONENT AND SERVES TO

REITERATE LONG-EXISTING POLICY THAT HAS RECENTLY BEEN OVERLOOKED BY MANY

SOLDIERS AND PROMOTION WORK CENTERS.

3. IN RECENT MONTHS, THERE HAS BEEN A DOCUMENTED INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF

UNUSUALLY HIGH PROMOTION POINT SCORES INCLUDING THOSE MEETING OR EXCEEDING

798. HRC- ALEXANDRIA HAS CONDUCTED AUDITS IN THIS REGARD AND HAS DETERMINED

A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THOSE SCORES TO BE ERRONEOUS.

4. A SIGNIFICANCT NUMBER OF THE DA FORM 3355 THAT CONTAIN ERRONEOUS ENTRIES

ARE AS A RESULT OF POINTS BEING AWARDED FOR CONTINUING EDUCATION UNITS

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3-47B(3). TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY, HEALTH.EDU, AND SWANK HEALTH ARE THREE

NOTED EXAMPLES OF LOCATIONS THAT OFFER CEUS, AND MANY SOLDIERS HAVE GAINED A

MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE VALID FOR PROMOTION POINTS. PROMOTION WORK

CENTERS MUST ENSURE THAT CREDITS FROM ACCREDITED UNIVERSITIES ARE REFLECTED

ON TRANSCRIPTS AND NOT CERTIFICATES OF COMPLETION. TEXAS TECH DOES OFFER

BOTH LEGITIMATE COLLEGE CREDIT COURSES THAT AWARD SEMESTER HOURS AS WELL AS

CEUS AND THIS DIFFERENCE MUST BE CHECKED BEFORE VALIDATING POINTS.

5. ADDITIONALLY, SOLDIERS WHO LIST CIVILIAN EDUCATION AS UNKNOWN IN

SECTION VII OF THE ERB AND/OR SECTION B(3) ON THE 3355 MUST HAVE THOSE

POINTS CERTIFIED BY THEIR LOCAL EDUCATION CENTER/S1 WITH THE NAME OF THE

INSTITUTION LISTED OR REMOVE THOSE POINTS. PROMOTION WORK CENTERS MUST BE

DILIGENT IN ENSURING ONLY THOSE AUTHORIZED COLLEGE INSTITUTIONS LISTED IN

THE ACCREDITED INSTITUTIONS OF POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION MANUAL (ACE MANUAL)

ARE ALLOWED FOR PROMOTION CREDIT, AND ONLY THOSE POINTS RESULTING FROM VALID

COLLEGE COMPLETION. POINTS ARE AWARDED USING THE SOLDIERS MOST CURRENT

TRANSCRIPT THAT INCLUDES THE INSTITUTIONS NAME AND ADDRESS. SOLDIERS WITH

MULTIPLE TRANSCRIPTS AND GRADE SLIPS MUST TAKE THESE TRANSCRIPTS AND

MULTIPLE DOCUMENTS TO THE LOCAL EDUCATION CENTER FOR ASSISTANCE. THE LOCAL

EDUCATION CENTER WILL PROVIDE ONLY AN ASSESSMENT OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF

NON-DUPLICATED POSTESECONDARY CREDIT FOR SUBMISSION TO THE UNIT AS THE

SOURCE DOCUMENT TO UPDATE THE TOTAL ARMY PERSONNEL DATABASE (TAPDB) WITH THE

TOTAL NUMBER OF CREDIT HOURS. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CREDITS AN ACCREDITED

INSTITUTION GRANTS TOWARDS A DEGREE WILL BE THE BASIS FOR GRANTING POINTS.

SUBSEQUENT GRADE SLIPS MAY BE USED ONCE A COURSE IS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY.

6. JUNIOR ENLISTED PROMOTIONS, HRC ALEXANDRIA IS CONDUCTING THOROUGH AUDITS

ON PACKETS IN QUESTION, AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS WITH QUESTIONABLE INPUT WILL

BE FLAGGED FOR REMOVAL FROM A PROMOTION SELECTION LIST. REMOVAL OF THE FLAG

IS CONTINGENT UPON THE CLARIFICATION OF THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE

SOLDIERS PROMOTION FILE, AND SUBSEQUENT REMOVAL OF INVALID POINTS, IF

7. FURTHER, IT IS IMPERITIVE THAT PROMOTION WORK CENTERS/S-1 CELLS CONDUCT

AUDITS ON SOLDIERS APPEARING IN THE MONTHLY DA FORM 3355 AUDIT REPORT. THIS

REPORT IS FOUND IN THE MENU OF THE AUTOMATED DA 3355 WEB PAGE FOR AUTHORIZED

USERS. MONTHLY AUDITS WILL ENSURE THAT THIS TREND IS MITIGATED.

8. POINT OF CONTACT IS THE ENLISTED PROMOTIONS BRANCH AT (703)325-8010.

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Maybe 92A30 SSG points will go down if they are actually checking for legit schools. In which I assume my 758 will move up the list. In the mean time Im getting my 51C package ready. Who knows I may get it or may not but its worth a shot and its right down my ally.

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justawifey – Congratulations to you and your husband.

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92A SSG points always been 798 ever since i joined the army which was like 4-5 years ago. Once you make SSG though you have good chance making MSG very easily.

All soldiers are entitled to outstanding leadership; I will provide that leadership.

Maybe 92A30 SSG points will go down if they are actually checking for legit schools. In which I assume my 758 will move up the list. In the mean time Im getting my 51C package ready. Who knows I may get it or may not but its worth a shot and its right down my ally.

If you have any questions or need any help with your packet let me know. I did mine about a year ago and it was by far the best move that I ever did in the military. Im really suprised more NCOs arent taking advantages of the incredible opportunities that this MOS presents.

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quote:Originally posted by KingofMinot2:

Maybe 92A30 SSG points will go down if they are actually checking for legit schools. In which I assume my 758 will move up the list. In the mean time Im getting my 51C package ready. Who knows I may get it or may not but its worth a shot and its right down my ally.

If you have any questions or need any help with your packet let me know. I did mine about a year ago and it was by far the best move that I ever did in the military. Im really suprised more NCOs arent taking advantages of the incredible opportunities that this MOS presents.

I need all the help I can get…I have the packet printout from the site. My question is what else should I have to be more competitive then others?

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Thanks for the info! I made it!! Went to the board on the 3rd of April so only a month wait for me.

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Anyone know if the 25L points are going to drop within the next couple months…

25L, 25U, and 25Q have high points all the time, to make up for the ultra-low points that 25P, 25S, and 25N have…

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